Dechert 4 Real: A Commercial Real Estate Finance Podcast
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Dechert 4 Real is a new podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance.

Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor, Sam Gilbert and Ella-Marie Smith every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way.
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Latest Episode: Episode 20 – Top Five CREFC Takeaways and a “Bullishly Measured” 2025 Outlook
January 28, 2025 – Listen to the top five biggest takeaways from the CREFC annual conference in Miami on our first episode of 2025 with Dechert 4 Real Podcast co-host Jon Gaynor and producers Matt Armstrong, Kate Mylod and Stewart McQueen (who also co-chaired the conference). Get the inside scoop on the overall vibe, insights from keynote speaker Ron Howard, thoughts on increasing back-leverage options in commercial real estate finance and other trends to watch this year!
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