4 Real: A Commercial Real Estate Finance Podcast
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4 Real is a podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance.
Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor, Sam Gilbert and Kate Mylod every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way.
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Latest Episode: Episode 31 — More Than Data Centers: AI Governance, Liability and the Future of CRE
February 23, 2026 — Artificial intelligence is everywhere, but aren’t the implications for commercial real estate limited to data centers? In this episode, 4 Real hosts Jon Gaynor and Sam Gilbert sit down with Dechert litigation counsel Wilfred T. Beaye, Jr. for the AI breakdown that every CRE decision-maker needs to hear, including where AI can be most powerful, why governance is lagging behind development, which property classes will be most impacted and how companies can protect themselves from liability.
About Dechert's Global Finance Practice
Dechert’s global finance practice provides a responsive, interdisciplinary, multi-jurisdictional team to address the complexities of modern finance transactions across categories and geographies. With more than 200 lawyers in the world’s major financial centers, our internationally recognized practice provides clients with innovative deal structuring, creative financing strategies and efficient execution. Our clients receive comprehensive solutions for all of their finance needs. By tapping into the breadth of Dechert’s expertise, we deliver advice on fund finance, real estate finance, structured finance, leveraged finance and securitization matters.
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