4 Real: A Commercial Real Estate Finance Podcast
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4 Real is a podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance.
Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor, Sam Gilbert and Kate Mylod every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way.
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Latest Episode: Episode 34 — Turning Over a New Leaf: A Decade Well Planted With CREFC's Lisa Pendergast
June 30, 2026 — This year's CREFC Annual Conference drew standing-room-only panels, a sign that the market has given industry leaders plenty to talk about. In this episode of Dechert's 4 Real podcast, host Jon Gaynor and series producer Stewart McQueen sit down with Lisa Pendergast, President and CEO of CREFC, to break down the conference's biggest themes and where she thinks the industry will go from here.
Plus, Lisa shares what she's most proud of building over the last 10 years and the hosts find out who the "green thumbs" of the group are.
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