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4 Real is a podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance.
Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor and Sam Gilbert every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way.
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Latest Episode: Episode 28 – Giving Thanks for Transitional Lending
November 24, 2025 – In our 28th episode, Dechert 4 Real hosts Jon Gaynor and Kate Mylod sit down with Richard Flohr of CrossHarbor Capital Partners for a discussion on all things transitional lending, including construction financing and Richard’s passion for industrial CRE. Plus, Dechert partner Mauricio España stops by with the 411 on recent cases involving Western Alliance and Zions Bank, and the group gets “4 Real” about Thanksgiving day Turkey Trots.
About Dechert's Global Finance Practice
Dechert’s global finance practice provides a responsive, interdisciplinary, multi-jurisdictional team to address the complexities of modern finance transactions across categories and geographies. With more than 200 lawyers in the world’s major financial centers, our internationally recognized practice provides clients with innovative deal structuring, creative financing strategies and efficient execution. Our clients receive comprehensive solutions for all of their finance needs. By tapping into the breadth of Dechert’s expertise, we deliver advice on fund finance, real estate finance, structured finance, leveraged finance and securitization matters.
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