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4 Real is a podcast from Dechert LLP exploring the latest trends and developments in commercial real estate finance.
Join co-hosts Jon Gaynor and Sam Gilbert every month as they delve into current issues impacting both the legal and business aspects of real estate finance transactions, including lending, securitization and restructuring. Each episode features market commentary and interviews with industry thought leaders, providing listeners with valuable insights and practical advice, plus a little banter along the way.
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Latest Episode: Episode 24 – CREFC Countdown: Five Biggest Takeaways From the New York Conference
June 24, 2025 – Has a “bullishly measured” commercial real estate outlook for 2025 become “cautiously fatigued?" Dechert 4 Real’s Matt Armstrong, Jon Gaynor, Stewart McQueen and Kate Mylod rank the five biggest takeaways from this year’s CREFC Annual Conference in New York, ranging from the vibe shift since January’s conference in Miami, the uncertainty the CRE market is currently processing, repo trends, GSEs using AI to root out mortgage fraud and more.
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About Dechert's Global Finance Practice
Dechert’s global finance practice provides a responsive, interdisciplinary, multi-jurisdictional team to address the complexities of modern finance transactions across categories and geographies. With more than 200 lawyers in the world’s major financial centers, our internationally recognized practice provides clients with innovative deal structuring, creative financing strategies and efficient execution. Our clients receive comprehensive solutions for all of their finance needs. By tapping into the breadth of Dechert’s expertise, we deliver advice on fund finance, real estate finance, structured finance, leveraged finance and securitization matters.
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